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	<title>Comments on: Firewalls are not Routers</title>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.2vcps.com/2010/04/29/firewalls-are-not-routers/comment-page-1/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the flip side... routers are not good firewalls.  You can easily setup a router to route to different segments but then you must rely on Access Lists to protect those networks, not fun.  As for routing through the firewall you can often use a dot1q tagged interface to get a lot of flexibility.  Firewalls are usually slower at routing than routers, for sure.

A hybrid approach is to put servers on the LAN(s) on one side of the firewall, and route them through a Layer 3 capable device.  Servers on the &#039;DMZ&#039; or untrusted side can be routed through a firewall and not a router.  It&#039;s much, much, much easier to work with statefull firewall policies than to have to create reflexsive ACLs on the routers.

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the flip side&#8230; routers are not good firewalls.  You can easily setup a router to route to different segments but then you must rely on Access Lists to protect those networks, not fun.  As for routing through the firewall you can often use a dot1q tagged interface to get a lot of flexibility.  Firewalls are usually slower at routing than routers, for sure.</p>
<p>A hybrid approach is to put servers on the LAN(s) on one side of the firewall, and route them through a Layer 3 capable device.  Servers on the &#8216;DMZ&#8217; or untrusted side can be routed through a firewall and not a router.  It&#8217;s much, much, much easier to work with statefull firewall policies than to have to create reflexsive ACLs on the routers.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Owings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Owings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 03:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. That is the other great way to fix the problem. I think Checkpoint lets you do the same thing. From what I remember you only get so many sub interfaces on the ASA and the 5505 is a no go with the method all together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. That is the other great way to fix the problem. I think Checkpoint lets you do the same thing. From what I remember you only get so many sub interfaces on the ASA and the 5505 is a no go with the method all together.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 03:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I don&#039;t advise using a firewall as the main router for a network, multiple sub-interfaces can be created (at least with Cisco ASA firewalls) on the inside interface.  This will provide a default gateway for each VLAN, and if all VLANs have the same security level, traffic will pass between them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t advise using a firewall as the main router for a network, multiple sub-interfaces can be created (at least with Cisco ASA firewalls) on the inside interface.  This will provide a default gateway for each VLAN, and if all VLANs have the same security level, traffic will pass between them.</p>
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